Roundtable: Shared Services & Outsourcing In Latin America

It might not yet have the same profile as South Asialooking at operations in a different way?
or Eastern Europe, but Latin America is becoming anLaura Bao Castro: Intel Corporation has been, over the
increasingly popular destination for organizations lookingpast 2.5 years, on a restructuring and efficiency
to establish shared service centers, either servingprogram that has resulted in run-rate savings of
domestic markets or as part of regional or even globalgreater than three billion dollars, CapEx avoidance in
shared services strategies. Furthermore, along with thisexcess of one billion dollars, and a reduction of twenty
growth in the captive sector Latin America hasthousand employees from our peak in 2006. We as
become the focus of growing interest on the part ofpart of the Corporation are taking actions to contribute
major outsourcing providers whose entry into thein this process. We are doing a big effort to reduce
market has had knock-on consequences across thediscretionary spending and one example is travel. We
board. Throw into this already-volatile mix the currentare also increasing the number of meetings over the
economic instability and it's easy to see why thephone and are focusing on productivity and efficiencies
region's activity is making waves across and beyondso we can do more with the same.
the shared services and outsourcing space in 2009.Esteban Carril: Laura mentions the travel and
The Shared Services & Outsourcing Networkentertainment reduction, and this is clearly an area
convened a panel representing practitioners, providerswhere we have tried to pay close attention – but
and advisors to take a look at the current level ofas a matter of fact I think that there is no doubt that
maturity of the Latin American market and to examinethe economic crisis will bring new opportunities for
how - and if - the economic malaise affecting much ofshared services here in Latin America. I think this might
the rest of the global economy is impacting uponnow be a great time to demonstrate that Latin
operations in the region.America is a reliable region, especially for global shared
Attending were:services. As we speak my company is looking for
Laura Bao Castronew opportunities in emerging markets. Right now we
CR FSSC Controllerare looking for a shared service center for sales
Intel Corporationoperations here in Latin America; this might be a great
Esteban Carrilopportunity for consolidation and cost efficiency.
Director, Latin America Finance OperationsLike Laura we have accelerated process
EMC Corporationimprovements and efficiencies, and tightened our
Mauro Mezzanocontrols over expenses; we are also now
Partnerimplementing new tools to give us better visibility of
Vantaz Group Consultingcustomer usage patterns and people’s
Ricardo Nevesperformance, in order to drive customers to more
PwC Global Sourcing Leader for South Americaefficient services. Those services that may be
PricewaterhouseCoopershigh-cost and are not being used by our customers
SSON: I think the first question we should look at is: is itare the ones that we would like to either outsource or
right to talk of "Latin American shared services" at all?discontinue. We have also identified other opportunities
Latin America is a very big region geographically and into expand our scope of services by leveraging our
terms of population; it’s got a smaller linguisticshared services to serve new internal customers, and
diversity than, for example, Europe, but there are stillredirecting our services to areas where they can add
very big differences between, say, Brazil and Costamore value… [Regarding discretionary spending] As
Rica. To what extent is it actually possible forLaura mentioned, we have to do more with the same;
organizations – captive or BPO – to take a trulyin my case I’m trying to engage people from my
regional approach in Latin America? Is it impossible toshared services to lead some of these projects. On
avoid having significant resources in individualother cases we will prioritize those projects where we
countries?see there is a clear benefit in costs in the short term.
Ricardo Neves: This is a region different from otherMauro Mezzano: What I would say is, working in
regions in the world. If you talk about intra-regionshared services implementations in 2000, 2001,
services, you’re talking about two major languageseverybody was looking towards cost reductions. Then
which are, in some ways, close to each other; youmoving through 2005, 2006, 2007 and last year – up
have also a closeness of overall culture; and usuallyto October, of course! – I had, as a consultant, many
what you see with multinational or regional operationscustomers who were very focused on growing, so
here is that the larger countries like Brazil, Argentina,they were very interested in preparing for big growth
Mexico, Chile correspond to a significant size of therates. Now, after October last year, once again I’m
operations. Usually if you look at most of the global orgetting many calls from people looking for cost
multinational companies in the region, they have 50% orreductions, and being very proactive in implementing
even 75% of their operations carried out in two orprojects with quick results. I think it’s come back to
three countries at most - and then 10, 12 otherthat, and I think as Esteban was saying, in our region
countries where they do have operations but whichsome countries become even more interesting for
make up only 25% or less of their business.multinationals to do medium-to-long-term cost
This gives a challenge when setting up a regionalreductions because the labor costs are under what
center, because there is a scale for the largerthey can see in other regions.
countries which is not present in the smaller ones –Something which is different from the 2000 period, in
and what I’ve seen here is a mix between totally2008, 2009, 2010, I think the offshoring/BPO providers
centrally run shared services and a lesser localare really appearing here in Latin America, and this
presence in smaller countries to make sure the rightcould be a very interesting moment to potentiate that
scale is achieved and the right support is done at theoutsourcing and offshoring business.
regional level. There are companies based in Brazil thatSSON: Have you been seeing clients are coming to
I’ve seen who have regional shared services –you with the need to do more with the same amount
like the brewer AmBev, now connected with InBevof money, or reduced budgets?
and AnhauserBusch, which has a very large regionalMauro Mezzano: I’ve been seeing both. Some of
shared services based in Sao Paulo serving not justthe clients that were working here during 2008 in
operations in the region, but also the firm’sshared services have come to me and said "Sorry, I
operations in Canada for the Labatt operations.cannot come anymore with this budget because my
Unilever has also set up an HR shared services - andcompany is in a crisis"; but at the same time I’ve
has just sold its finance shared services to Capgeminibeen having new calls from customers who
in the region.weren’t working with us previously, but who really
In sum, from those large operations that I’ve seen,want to work with us because they’ve got a new
as I said I’ve seen a mix of some centralisedapproach to shared services. The market is still very
services and some small countries with local servicesopen and diverse, but I think it’s going to narrow
combined.down into cost reductions during March and onwards.
Esteban Carril: We’re serving Argentina, Chile, Peru,SSON: Obviously globally over the last few years one
Mexico, Colombia, Venezuela, and Brazil. My team isvery big question has been how to attract and retain
divided into three functional areas, in two countries.talent. Recently however as the economy has
One team is working in Sao Paulo, Brazil; the other twoworsened there has been the feeling in other parts of
functional teams are working here in Argentina. Wethe world that talent acquisition and retention isn’t
run accounts payable, accounts receivable, credit andgoing to be such an issue over the foreseeable future,
collections, billing, cash applications, payroll, commissionsbecause people aren’t going to be willing to move
and bonuses. It’s actually not divided linguistically: weout of secure jobs. Is this mirrored in what’s
found we already had some good skills in Brazil tohappening in Latin America right now?
develop the credit and collections department there, soLaura Bao Castro: You know, Costa Rica is behaving
we decided to leave the existing group providingvery differently from other markets, specifically in the
services there in Brazil, to provide services for the restservice industry. This year is no different; and the
of the Latin American countries. We wanted to haveprojection is 3,500 new jobs, so we actually have a
three functional groups, but we wanted to try to keeppretty hot market. Talent retention is critical for our
the same skilled people working and we didn’tsuccess.
want to have to move them from one country toIn terms of our sourcing strategy, we work very
another.closely with the technical schools – particularly the
Laura Bao Castro: We’re part of a global strategy.accounting technical schools – and the public
We have currently two pretty large financial shareduniversity that provides accounting professionals. We
services centers in Intel. One is located in Malaysia andprovide internship programs for technical school
the other one is located here in Costa Rica; thegraduates and a student program for university
markets that are supported from Costa Rica arestudents: we bring those people while they’re still
Canada, the US, Costa Rica, and Mexico, Colombia,studying to work part-time for us – some of them in
Venezuela, Chile, Argentina and Brazil.an internship mode, some as what we call "student
SSON: Laura and Esteban, you both come from bigworkers" – and by the time they graduate, and if
global organizations with significant worldwidewe feel that they have delivered to our expectations
presence. Do you think it’s still the biggest– we offer them full-time jobs. That has been a
companies who are setting up shared services in Latinvery successful strategy that we implemented about
America or are the smaller, or maybe mid-market,six years ago, and we have a conversion rate of 95%.
organizations also getting involved?In addition we provide English classes to those
Laura Bao Castro: I think the mid-market is coming up. Iemployees to ensure that by the time they get
was able to go to [SSON’s Shared Servicesconverted they have reached the level of English that
America Latina 2008 event in] Chile last year, and alsowe require to do our jobs, because we offer services
participated in the SSON conference in Mexico City,to the North American market and a lot of our jobs will
and I was very surprised by the number of Latinrequire a certain level of English capability. So that’s
American multinationals that have already moved intoa sourcing strategy that I think has proven to be very
this journey, or are in the process of doing so –successful for us, and it gives a continuous pipeline of
especially in Mexico where I think a lot of companiesnew employees coming in.
are looking into it, even having shared services withinIn the area of talent retention, Intel is a company that
Mexico itself. The concept is right there; they knowbelieves in flexibility and we do provide a lot of flexibility
they can reduce costs and produce more quality withto our employees. I don’t know if you’re familiar
shared services, and even within Mexico itselfwith the term "Generation Y" for people born after
companies are developing shared service centers.1980; 80% of the population that I manage are
Mauro Mezzano: Actually we’ve been seeing thisGeneration Y, young people with very different
shift since two or three years ago. At the start of thementalities – they have a different chip in their minds
decade many multinationals began establishing sharedfrom mine, for example – and they value flexibility
services in the region, but when I went to conferencesvery much, so we have programs like what we call
in Miami and Orlando there weren’t many Latin"telecommuting" where they’re able to work from
American-owned companies present. Then in 2004,home up to two days a week. They have different
2005, bigger local companies and groups started withstart and ending times – some of these employee
the concept. Now smaller and smaller companies areare going to school so they need flexibility to continue
doing it; some of them don’t really implement whattheir studies – we have found through the surveys
we would call shared services but they do centralizeand questionnaires that flexibility is one of the main
and they do take a few concepts from sharedreasons why they choose to stay with us. We provide
service centers, and perhaps redesign a process. Theportable computers to all our employees which they
influence of shared services is spreading out throughcan take home – and this generation are
many more companies than before.technology-growers, of course, so they love that.
Ricardo Neves: I’ve seen an increase in interest:These two things have really been proven to help us
among mid-market companies it’s less regional.retain employees – in addition to the career
What I’ve seen is among large companies,development of course. One of the beauties of shared
they’ve done a lot of rationalization in each of theirservices is that you manage different functions, you
countries of operation, and a lot of discussion aboutmanage different groups, and if someone wants to
regional shared services. What I’ve seen in thestart a career they will have the opportunity to move
mid-market, specifically in Brazil, are still questions oninto these different groups and become a rounded
"in-country" shared services if you know what I mean.professional.
It’s more making sure that they leverage their localSSON: Esteban, how are you finding the employment
operations, and then as a second step – especiallymarket – and has there been a shift in your
with some of the systems work done – it’sacquisition and retention strategies as a result of the
something of a done deal to set up something regional:economic crisis?
when you have a regional systems platform, forEsteban Carril: In our case – and I would say that
example.this applies for every other shared services in Latin
SSON: Let’s shift focus slightly and take a look atAmerica – turnover rate is one of the most
the outsourcing market in Latin America. Over the pastchallenging areas for shared services. We have been
couple of years we’ve seen the entry into thedoing several things to retain our talent. We have been
region of some of the big global players – incross training – so, for example, when an employee
particular some of the big Indian providers. Whatcomes to work in one department we offer them
impact has that had on the market – and on firmssome exposure to other areas of operations, to other
that are running shared services?processes, so they can learn other activities and
Esteban Carril: In my experience in leading a sharedprocesses which as Laura pointed out adds more
service centre I have been trying to find differentvalue to their own career.
ways to do things, and finding vendors who canThis year we are also offering a new service inside
provide services in a more efficient and economicalshared services which is that we loan employees to
way than us doing it ourselves. When it comes to theother areas, so for example if a business area needs
outsourcing sector, I find that in Latin America thingsan extra person because someone goes on maternity
are still in development. When it comes to outsourcingleave, or even leaves the company, we provide them
it’s important to see how well-organized companieswith people as a service. If our people are trained in
are, and how well they provide services in multipleother systems and other processes we can add value
countries – and I see the challenge for many of theby moving those people to other areas where they
big firms is that they are still working as independentcan spend two or three months. We’re offering
companies in each country, and not really regionallythat as another service from our shared service
organized in order to provide services to multi-countrycentre.
shared service centers.Another area is flexible time. The nature of our
I think that’s one of the key points that I’vebusiness is, 70% of our business takes place within the
been finding. Another key point is that somelast three weeks of the quarter so we really need to
companies are regionalized but unfortunately theybe flexible with our people. We let them do some
might not have presence in all markets, so thattelecommuting, we offer flexible time, because – as
becomes a problem in terms of finding a single regionalLaura pointed out – you should give them some kind
outsourcing solution to meet our needs.of freedom inside the company. We provide English
Laura Bao Castro: About five years ago companiesand Portuguese classes as well.
providing outsource service arrived to Costa Rica.The key here is that we’ve signed some
Since then, these companies have grown , foragreements with universities through which we bring
example HP has now close to 8,000 employees. Whilenew people on board; we usually train them in those
I can’t be specific about their services or regionsareas which are more transactional, so they gain
they serve, these companies look for people speakingexperience – and then we move them around, not
Spanish, English, Portuguese, French, Italian – evenonly inside shared services but also outside, offering
Chinese. We do not work specifically with anthem now career opportunities in the business, in
outsource vendor at this moment – but periodicallydifferent countries, in our local finance team. So we
we reassess our current strategy.offer them several routes to success inside our
Ricardo Neves: One of the features that I’vecompany.
noticed, one of the movements in the outsourcingSSON: Are you thinking that turnover is still going to be
space in Latin America, is that there’s been a lot ofan issue for you in a worsening economy and a
currency fluctuation between the dollar and the real,consequently tightening job market?
and the dollar and other currencies, and I’ve seenEsteban Carril: I think right now, there are several
some discussions on contract review - especially forcompanies that are letting people go, and I think the
service providers – from both sides: if the clientslabor market will be better for us. However, inflation is
want to take advantage of that, or even discussstill a problem – particularly in Argentina – so
relocation of some work; or if the providers are sayingwhen it comes to retention we would expect to be
that an increasing cost is related to currency fluctuationreactive in terms of salary adjustments, to ensure
putting added pressure on their margins. Definitelycompetitive salaries. So in general terms I think the
currency fluctuations have been one of the biggestmarket’s going to be quieter; however, we should
topics of discussion in the region.always keep an eye on the need for salary
SSON: OK, let’s move on and address the bigadjustments – especially with the inflation
issue of the moment and, perhaps, of many momentsfluctuations we may see in coming years.
to come: the financial crisis and global economicSSON: Ricardo, what’s your take on the job
downturn, and their impact upon shared services andmarket and the pressures on talent management at
the sourcing sector in the region. Ricardo, what do youthe moment? Have things changed as a result of
see as having been the main changes in the spaceOctober’s events?
since the beginning of the main phase of the crisis inRicardo Neves: Some of the clients I support have
October?said the pressure on them has increased to deliver a
Ricardo Neves: What I’ve seen is basically a largergood service at a lower cost, and the best way to do
interest in discussing measures to reduce costs. Somethat is with good people. So I think the search for good
of the plans that were lined up to be rolled out in thepeople, and the importance of retaining them, and
future have now become more interesting forworking the talent market, is still a big challenge as we
discussion now; specifically, if they can help reducego into crisis mode. Even though when you think about
costs. The mood, the willingness to do something nowit there might be a little more availability of resources
has increased. Organizations today want to doon the market, when you look at the example
something bolder than they were willing to do even sixwe’ve heard of Costa Rica - or even Brazil, where
months ago. We used to hear things from thecompanies are going more into the interior of the
business like "don’t disrupt my growth", "don’tcountry and looking at other cities inside Brazil to be
rock the boat"; now executives are coming and sayingable to retain a good flow of people coming out of
"hey, where can we make this boat more nimble?universities, and have been growing very fast
How can we rock the boat but at the same timethroughout the country – shared services and new
make us leaner and more prepared?"organizations coming in are going after talent very fast,
I’ve seen this happening in a couple of ways. Onewherever it is; so I don’t believe it will be an easier
is, clients coming to us looking for an overalltime managing talent for shared services during the
assessment of cost reduction – which usuallycrisis we have now.
includes the theme of shared services. Secondly,SSON: And have you noticed – or are you
we’re also having a lot of discussions on reviewingforecasting – a drop in attrition rates over the next
outsourcing contracts – or even making thosefew months?
contracts broader, in order to ensure they areRicardo Neves: Not at this point; considering what
capturing all the value they could based on theI’ve both from clients and from providers with
relationship. So overall what I’m seeing is anwhom I’ve been working closely I have not seen
increased willingness to take bold measures to ensureany significant change in those rates at this point, in
cost reduction.Brazil particularly.
SSON: Do firms still have money to spend on bigSSON: And will the increased operation of big BPO
implementations, or is it about making changes asproviders have an impact here?
cheap as possible?Ricardo Neves: I think so. I have not seen a slowdown
Ricardo Neves: I think a lot of it is, as you say, to makein any way in the growth of the shared service
things as cheap as possible, as fast as possible. Butcenters either from providers or companies going after
I’ve seen some room to say "if I need to spendit. So even if there is any increase in supply I don’t
that to get that back, then let me hear what you havethink demand will decrease; actually, I think demand will
to say". Again, I think firms are more willing to do thingsincrease from both existing shared services and from
than they were before - but no-one’s sayingnew companies coming into the market. I don’t
they’ve got a big pile of money to reduce theirforesee an easier time on turnover rates or talent
costs. What they need to do is support the investmentretention.
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